AI and Consciousness - James and Mia in Conversation




The Future of Consciousness Key takeaways: (* The brain computer interface will become more sophisticated, allowing us to train ourselves to let go of thoughts., * The brain computer interface will allow us to understand ourselves better and know our values.) Transcript: Speaker 1 And not just because we’ve written it down, but because we now have an intelligence that reflects our values and understands us and knows us deeply, that can help us work through it and like different time. And so some of those threads, right, when we think about some of those threads maybe be like, shit, I really need to be a better boss next week and not be so short with the person I’m managing. But that might be right next to like, I really don’t understand what it means to have meaning in life. That’s what it’s like to be a conscious being is like you’re constantly cycling from these like super reflective, like, metacognitive thoughts about existence to like, I’m hungry and I need to eat. And so I feel that as brain computer interfaces grow more and more sophisticated and we’re able to interact with machines directly with our thoughts, which are composed of language at their base level, then we’ll be able to train ourselves to when our brain generates something, just let go of it. Because it will, and we can kind of deal with it on our own time, and we’ll be able to build a (Time 0:21:50)

Tools for Thinking Key takeaways: (* Language is the tool for thinking, and it can be used to improve relationships and the world around us., * We can use language to better understand ourselves and others, and this will lead to better relationships and a better world.) Transcript: Speaker 1 I think on an interpersonal level and a societal level, we’ll have these types of dialogues for everything, not just we’ll just be able to start moving those thoughts into shared systems that have models that are trained on helping us solve the latest new problem we have as humans. And ideally there will be less of them and there’ll be less severe because we’ll be better at working together because we’ll understand ourselves better. And I guess at a high level, it’s a speed back loop of a greater level of self understanding driven by like a quieter mind. It’s driven by more self expression that translates into better relationships in a better world is the most optimistic you can think of it. Speaker 2 John, what does this bring up for you? Speaker 3 So I think a bunch of things. So one is that I think, in the topic of this podcast is tools for thinking. And I think that it gives Andy Marshshak who referred to language as the tools for thinking, the original tool for thinking. (Time 0:23:36)

Language is the original tool for thinking

How I’m Coping Today Key takeaways: (* John uses a monologue to communicate with his second voice, which helps him to be a better person., * Monologues can be a way to communicate difficult feelings without constantly texting or talking to others.) Transcript: Speaker 3 So I have sort of a back in the monologue right now. Do I have other than Andy West, my passport? Do I still need vaccine cards or that crap, right? So I have all that sort of like going on in back. And that is like in turn, giving me a degree of, I’m not sure what we call it, anxiety or just like sort of like I’ve got a bunch of things I need to do. So that’s how I’m showing up right now. And by externalizing that and making that into, you know, a dialogue with either with you or with my second voice, I think that that actually can help me be a better person. Speaker 1 I think that’s the metaphor of monologue into dialogue and something like a really important part of the way that we talk about this and communicate about this. Because it allows us, you know, I think one of the goals here is that like John can get all of the benefits of when he’s having a particularly challenging day talking through the way that he’s feeling with his wife as an example without constantly texting his wife every time he was a thought. (Time 0:26:21)

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