82 // Spatial Computing With Yiliu Shen-Burke

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1min Snip (Time 0:00:51) So I was just sharing with you some of my learnings on the importance of breathing, which I feel like a lot of people maybe have figured out before. You know, way before I came across this topic. But I started trying some Wim Hof breathing before some of my like cafe work sessions, which is equal parts actually very invigorating and effective. I find it helps me focus. And also makes me feel like a complete weirdo sitting in public like staring out the window and breathing really intensely. So I recommend it to people who are looking for ways to quickly get in the zone and focus when they maybe are a bit distracted. And if you have any tips on different resources, I’m very open. I’m very curious about this. Speaker 3 What does this breathing technique entail? What are we signing up Speaker 1 for here? So I mean, Wim Hof breathing specifically is this cycle of very intense breath in, breath out. There’s nothing too technically complicated about it. It’s more just about sticking to a certain rhythm. And at the end of I think like 20 or 30 breaths you hold your breath for about a minute, there’s a very helpful Spotify podcast episode that’s like five minutes long that just guide you through it. And so there’s all this drumming.


Wim Hof breathing specifically is this cycle of very intense breath in, breath out. There’s nothing too technically complicated about it. It’s more just about sticking to a certain rhythm. And at the end of I think like 20 or 30 breaths you hold your breath for about a minute, there’s a very helpful Spotify podcast episode that’s like five minutes long that just guide you through it. And so there’s all this drumming. And Wim Hof is kind of like they’re motivating you through the whole thing. So I find that after I do this breath work, I am indeed able to just like really get in the zone

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And once I kind of really wrapped my mind around what block was, I essentially shifted my own development model toward working with blocks. Because blocks, to me, map so much better to the underlying material of thought and of creativity than a word doc or an Excel spreadsheet do. And so for me, one of the promises of spatial computing is to give you more powerful ways of displaying information that is kind of around a block in size. Displaying the relationships between those items, because for Roam Research, a big part of its appeal to a certain kind of user was the ability to represent explicitly the links between the blocks. So back linking and being able to explicitly construct arguments, drawing from pieces of evidence or pieces of information that are elsewhere in your database in your notebook. And on a 2D display, there are just all these limitations around how much more other information you can show, how you represent these links. 1min Snip (Time 0:31:24)


the stories of people who have found a way to achieve previously very difficult goals, fitness goals through virtual reality and through some of these fitness apps like Supernatural. And I really like this model for how spatial computing can fit into our lives and work or actually any technology for that matter can fit into our lives and work. That it’s this really time boxed and place boxed use case. You know when you begin and you know when you end but then even when you’re not using this app, you are enjoying the benefits of having that practice, of having that in your life. In this particular case, you’re feeling if it’s a little healthier and you’re able to hit these goals that you had but maybe had difficulty achieving in other ways like going to gym or going for a run. Practices that have benefits in the time you aren’t actively doing them

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there has been some research recently that suggests our brains use or creatively misuse spatial navigation, neural circuitry to keep track of concepts and memories. And this I found fascinating because, you know, I’d always kind of thought of this idea of like conceptual spaces as a helpful metaphor, as a useful sort of metaphor because we can’t like otherwise visualize, you know, what it means for this idea to be close to this one before from that one. But it seems like there is some evidence that this is actually what’s happening, you know, in our brains.

Our brains relate concepts using our spatial neural circuitry

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